Comments on: Is it time for a 5th Marian dogma? http://ericsammons.com/blog/2010/03/04/is-it-time-for-a-5th-marian-dogma/ Musings about the Catholic Faith Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:38:42 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: RMoe http://ericsammons.com/blog/2010/03/04/is-it-time-for-a-5th-marian-dogma/comment-page-1/#comment-35370 RMoe Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:59 +0000 http://ericsammons.com/blog/?p=7457#comment-35370 The Marian dogma is a difficult one to reconcile. It appears as though these 5 dogma were purported by the Catholic Church after 413 (based on your published dates). Let it be noted, that the early church fathers (who had some early contact with the 1st century christians) made no mention of such. Rather, these "doctrines" were imported nearly 400 yrs after Jesus' death and the genesis of the first church. To make matters worse, the Bible was already written and compiled. (OT prior to 400 BC and NT ca. AD 60 - 160.). Where would these doctrinal Marian tenets come from? There are not from the Bible, the inerrant source of Christianity. There is a seeming reliance on the backbone of "oral tradition" to support them, and an equal evasion of the proper genesis. Mary cannot be our advocate or medatrix, since she is not alive anymore. There is no biblical proof of her sinlessness. She was simply a human vessel that God used to bring Himself into humanity. The emphasis is not the vessel. She has served her purpose. She was born of man, like everyone human being save Adam and Jesus, and therefore she has inherited the original sin from Adam, and Jesus had to come to die for her too. The sculpting of a theory into a major religious doctrine, without reliable scriptural or historical truth of its genesis is quite dangerous especially when dealing with morality and "truth". Awaiting your response. The Marian dogma is a difficult one to reconcile. It appears as though these 5 dogma were purported by the Catholic Church after 413 (based on your published dates). Let it be noted, that the early church fathers (who had some early contact with the 1st century christians) made no mention of such. Rather, these “doctrines” were imported nearly 400 yrs after Jesus’ death and the genesis of the first church.

To make matters worse, the Bible was already written and compiled. (OT prior to 400 BC and NT ca. AD 60 – 160.). Where would these doctrinal Marian tenets come from? There are not from the Bible, the inerrant source of Christianity. There is a seeming reliance on the backbone of “oral tradition” to support them, and an equal evasion of the proper genesis.

Mary cannot be our advocate or medatrix, since she is not alive anymore. There is no biblical proof of her sinlessness. She was simply a human vessel that God used to bring Himself into humanity. The emphasis is not the vessel. She has served her purpose. She was born of man, like everyone human being save Adam and Jesus, and therefore she has inherited the original sin from Adam, and Jesus had to come to die for her too.

The sculpting of a theory into a major religious doctrine, without reliable scriptural or historical truth of its genesis is quite dangerous especially when dealing with morality and “truth”.

Awaiting your response.

]]> By: Christina http://ericsammons.com/blog/2010/03/04/is-it-time-for-a-5th-marian-dogma/comment-page-1/#comment-24494 Christina Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:14:03 +0000 http://ericsammons.com/blog/?p=7457#comment-24494 I hope and pray that the Fifth Marian Dogma be proclaimed soon. Research "Our Lady of All Nations" to see that once this Dogma is proclaimed by the Holy Roman Catholic Church then the Holy Spirit will come over the world to create peace finally and completely. Sign the petition to Our Holy Father Pope Benedict.http://www.fifthmariandogma.com/index.php?option=com_form&Itemid=602 I hope and pray that the Fifth Marian Dogma be proclaimed soon. Research “Our Lady of All Nations” to see that once this Dogma is proclaimed by the Holy Roman Catholic Church then the Holy Spirit will come over the world to create peace finally and completely. Sign the petition to Our Holy Father Pope Benedict.http://www.fifthmariandogma.com/index.php?option=com_form&Itemid=602

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